微软开源.NET后CoreCLR与项目Mono的关系
CoreCLR and project Mono relationship after Microsoft open-sourced the .NET
有人可以向我解释一下 Mono 与 Microsoft 最近提供的开放 source/Linux 可移植 .NET 堆栈(CoreCLR、CoreFX、Roslyn、ASP.NET)之间的当前关系吗?
很明显这些项目有重叠,所以我很好奇它们的路线图是什么——Mono 会以某种方式用 Microsoft 的新组件替换它们自己的组件,还是它们会以某种方式共存?
我认为答案可能会随着时间的推移而演变,但我知道 Microsoft 和 Mono Project 将协同工作,或者至少 Microsoft 将允许 Mono 使用他们的开源 .Net 堆栈。
http://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/releases/4.0.0/
While Microsoft is working towards .NET Core: a redistributable and re-imagined version of .NET, the project remains a work in progress. Mono at this point continues to provide an API that tracks the .NET desktop/server version.
This means that most of the code that we have integrated comes from the ReferenceSource drop. In the future, we will deliver a “Mono Core” along the same lines of .NET Core to allow the use of the Mono runtime with the new library distribution system that is being developed with CoreFX.
Miguel de Icaza(Xamarin 的首席技术官兼联合创始人以及 Mono 项目的创始人)评论说:
http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2014/Nov-12.html
.NET is being open sourced under the MIT license. Not only is the code being released under this very permissive license, but Microsoft is providing a patent promise to ensure that .NET will get the adoption it deserves.
特别是两个项目:
Mono will be able to use as much a it wants from this project.
...
Microsoft has stated that they do not currently plan on taking patches back or engaging into a full open source community style development of this code base, as the requirements for backwards compatibility on Windows are very high.
From a Mono contributor on reddit:
I think people have the wrong mindset about this whole Mono/CoreCLR situation. Why should one VM becoming open source and being ported to other OSs mean that another VM can't exist? It'd be like saying that there should only be one Python implementation, or one JVM. That is not a good thing. Competition is healthy.
Mono happens to have a lot of features that CoreCLR doesn't: LLVM, full AOT, NaCl, tasklets, cross-VM GC bridge, various profiler modules, etc. Mono's startup time and runtime memory footprint are also optimized for platforms/devices that CoreCLR isn't (at least presently) even targeting. OTOH, CoreCLR has a more mature GC and generally better code generation (hence the slower startup time). The two VMs are good at different things, and there is no reason both cannot exist.
It's not like we insist on keeping our own code either. We're happy to switch to CoreCLR/reference source code when there are clear benefits to doing so (less maintenance, more correct, still portable enough). We've imported tons of reference source code already, and we're also importing certain parts of the CoreCLR VM:
https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/mono/metadata/decimal-ms.c
https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/mono/metadata/threadpool-ms.c
The core framework libraries (CoreFX) - https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - are used for all .NET Core scenarios, including .NET Native (UWP). This means that your code does the same thing in all of these different environments, since it's using the same underlying framework libraries. Separately, the Mono project is taking a lot of the same code, which means that the base framework for Xamarin apps are becoming more compatible with CoreFX, too. Yeahh! We hope to make this more formal in the future. We talk to @migueldeicaza about this frequently.
基本上他们之间有很多代码共享,如果他们将来融合,我不会感到惊讶。既然 MS 已经收购了 Xamarin,我认为他们不会对维护两个运行时非常感兴趣。
有人可以向我解释一下 Mono 与 Microsoft 最近提供的开放 source/Linux 可移植 .NET 堆栈(CoreCLR、CoreFX、Roslyn、ASP.NET)之间的当前关系吗?
很明显这些项目有重叠,所以我很好奇它们的路线图是什么——Mono 会以某种方式用 Microsoft 的新组件替换它们自己的组件,还是它们会以某种方式共存?
我认为答案可能会随着时间的推移而演变,但我知道 Microsoft 和 Mono Project 将协同工作,或者至少 Microsoft 将允许 Mono 使用他们的开源 .Net 堆栈。
http://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/releases/4.0.0/
While Microsoft is working towards .NET Core: a redistributable and re-imagined version of .NET, the project remains a work in progress. Mono at this point continues to provide an API that tracks the .NET desktop/server version.
This means that most of the code that we have integrated comes from the ReferenceSource drop. In the future, we will deliver a “Mono Core” along the same lines of .NET Core to allow the use of the Mono runtime with the new library distribution system that is being developed with CoreFX.
Miguel de Icaza(Xamarin 的首席技术官兼联合创始人以及 Mono 项目的创始人)评论说:
http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2014/Nov-12.html
.NET is being open sourced under the MIT license. Not only is the code being released under this very permissive license, but Microsoft is providing a patent promise to ensure that .NET will get the adoption it deserves.
特别是两个项目:
Mono will be able to use as much a it wants from this project.
...
Microsoft has stated that they do not currently plan on taking patches back or engaging into a full open source community style development of this code base, as the requirements for backwards compatibility on Windows are very high.
From a Mono contributor on reddit:
I think people have the wrong mindset about this whole Mono/CoreCLR situation. Why should one VM becoming open source and being ported to other OSs mean that another VM can't exist? It'd be like saying that there should only be one Python implementation, or one JVM. That is not a good thing. Competition is healthy.
Mono happens to have a lot of features that CoreCLR doesn't: LLVM, full AOT, NaCl, tasklets, cross-VM GC bridge, various profiler modules, etc. Mono's startup time and runtime memory footprint are also optimized for platforms/devices that CoreCLR isn't (at least presently) even targeting. OTOH, CoreCLR has a more mature GC and generally better code generation (hence the slower startup time). The two VMs are good at different things, and there is no reason both cannot exist.
It's not like we insist on keeping our own code either. We're happy to switch to CoreCLR/reference source code when there are clear benefits to doing so (less maintenance, more correct, still portable enough). We've imported tons of reference source code already, and we're also importing certain parts of the CoreCLR VM:
https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/mono/metadata/decimal-ms.c
https://github.com/mono/mono/blob/master/mono/metadata/threadpool-ms.c
The core framework libraries (CoreFX) - https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - are used for all .NET Core scenarios, including .NET Native (UWP). This means that your code does the same thing in all of these different environments, since it's using the same underlying framework libraries. Separately, the Mono project is taking a lot of the same code, which means that the base framework for Xamarin apps are becoming more compatible with CoreFX, too. Yeahh! We hope to make this more formal in the future. We talk to @migueldeicaza about this frequently.
基本上他们之间有很多代码共享,如果他们将来融合,我不会感到惊讶。既然 MS 已经收购了 Xamarin,我认为他们不会对维护两个运行时非常感兴趣。